Edmonds Neighborhood Action Coalition to sponsor panel on gun safety April 26

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The community is invited to join the Edmonds Neighborhood Action Coalition (ENAC) for a panel discussion on gun safety and legislation at 6:30 p.m. Thursday, April 26 at Edmonds United Methodist Church.

Panelists will include Ian Taylor from Moms Demand Action for Gun Violence, Rev. Dr. Sandy Brown from Alliance for Gun Responsibility and Lead Pastor for the Edmonds United Methodist Church, Larry Wechsler from Washington CeaseFire, Pam Van Swearingen from Grandmothers Against Gun Violence, Edmonds City Council President Mike Nelson, and State Sen. Patty Kuderer of the 48th Legislative District.

Doors open at 6 p.m. for socializing. The meeting will start promptly at 6:30 p.m. and end at 8 pm. The church is located at 828 Caspers St., Edmonds.

20 Replies to “Edmonds Neighborhood Action Coalition to sponsor panel on gun safety April 26”

  1. They should invite someone who has some actual knowledge on firearms, proper terminology, and how they function. I encourage these groups to invite a local gun store owner to one of these meeting. Most of these anti gun groups are filled with folks who have never even shot a gun, much less used one to defend themselves.

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    1. Good point, and perhaps such a person could speak about safety in the home – proper lockups, keeping firearms unloaded, etc. But it’s polarizing and unproductive to label a meeting about safety and limiting violence as “anti gun.” You can be a gun owner (even without using one to defend oneself!) and still in favor of control. Maybe better to label the meeting “anti-violence”?

      BTW, my father was a world-record-holding gunsmith, my brother was an NRA champion, and I was with the US Biathlon Team for many years. And I’m pro-control and anti-violence. You don’t have to be “anti-automobile” to insist on auto safety!

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      1. Rick Perry thought abortion clinics could use some safety regulation too. He required clinics to have the same underwriting, facility requirements, and administration rights as required by other healthcare providers in Texas. Planned parent hood was putting ladies under general anesthesia and wasnt following the same requirements as hospitals. They must have oxygen tanks, wide doors for gernies and elevators. Common Sense gun legestlation, vis-a-vis Common Sense healthcare legestlation. Rick Perry nearly ended abortion healthcare in TX via “common sense” regulation. I wish there were cheap unregulated places men could get healthcare.

        I’m not Pro-Choice or Pro-life, as I think both positions require a fair amount of intellectual dishonestly. I fully understand why women oppose certain regulation, just like gun advocates do. Let’s all stop pretending that we care about anything other than our partisan devices – we know regulation is the camel’s nose under the tent. People are running over others with trucks and London might actually ban knives.

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        1. “Let’s all stop pretending that we care about anything other than our partisan devices”

          What an incredibly cynical, judgmental and rude thing to say.

          “People are running over others with trucks and London might actually ban knives.”

          So do nothing? Take no steps on any problem?

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        2. I’m not anti-automobile and I’m pro-auto safety too, just like you. Where are the marches and meet-ups for lorry-control? One guy, one vehicle, killed 83 and injured almost 500 in France last year in minutes.

          So do nothing? Yes, if you’re powerless, do nothing. The Edmonds Farmers Market needs bollards. 5 years ago there was a high-speed chase downtown and the car was pinned at the water fountain. The guy was high on something and could have easily turned down 5th into the market. We aren’t powerless to install bollards. Let’s do that.

          I do think shootings are an apreciated and convenient trategy for those who politicize everything (no saying anyone here obviously). Everyone does it to some degree.

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        3. I live downtown Edmonds. I do whatever I want. You pretended to be a citizen commenting in MEN, offended when I said kids shouldn’t be put on puberty blockers, but you really were working for the district while advocating gender reassignment within the schools. Puberty blockers are dangerous and there are tremendous side effects.

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  2. Oh…that’s making a lot of assumptions about people you’ve never met. Gun owners can also be in favor of responsible gun laws.

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  3. Ian, you assume much. I grew up around guns, I have shot a gun, and I have been hunting… yet, I am very much in favor of increased gun safety, gun violence prevention and suicide reduction through regulation and legislation. I have no need of a gun store owner telling me why they do not favor increased protections (profits). However, I do desire stronger gun regulation and protection for my family and community. Therefore, I organized this event which is focused on gun safety, gun violence protection, and legislation; as well as how to get involved. Not anti-gun: Pro-gun-safety, pro-gun-violence-prevention, and pro-suicide-reduction.

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    1. Ryder rented a truck to a very sick person in Toronto. I don’t think your “gun store owner” argument works unless you are able carry your position to its logical ends. We live in a very safe society, and youd have to at least say what regulation you want. If prayers arent enough, just saying “regulation” without actually making a point isnt enough either. At least prayer makes ppl feel better.

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      1. I don’t think Laura is just “saying’regulation.'” How do you know no point will be made at the meeting, no useful regulation proposed? No awareness sharpened? Seems like closing out both the meeting and Laura before the event. So: do you have any constructive, useful suggestions?

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        1. The typical kid who shoots up a school is one who doesn’t have many male rolemodels. They are seeking attention. Nicolas Cruz actively sought attention that his deeds would bring him. I interviewed a rep from Moms Demand Action who told me that Cruz was not at fault because at 17 “his brain wasnt formed enough to know right from wrong.” The marches and meetings and protests play into the motivations of sick people. Schools have too few men teachers and boys need more positive role models. Let’s get more men teachers and school leaders. Let’s stop giving lunatics the attention that motivates them. “I could do better” he said. In the mind of the next sicko, Cruz did a lot better.

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  4. How can it be “a panel discussion on gun safety and legislation” when there is nobody on the panel that knows anything about guns or gun safety? Where is the firearms instructor or the shooting range owner or the NRA-certified Firearms Safety Instructor or even a police officer? Why are there no politicians that actually know something about and support the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights? This event sounds much more like a Liberal echo chamber than a discussion.

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      1. Agreed, what legestlation would have prevented Nicolas Cruz? Arent protests, media, and calls for legestlation making ppl like Cruz (who want attention) more relevant?

        Audits revealed that TSA fails to find 19 out of 20 guns, knives, and mock bombs at checkpoints. Its security theater. Still, there hasn’t been another aircraft hijacking since 2001 because someone, either a pilot or an air marshal is armed. There are schools that arm teachers. Let’s do that.

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story%3fid=51022188

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    1. How do you know that no one on the panel knows anything about guns of gun safety? How do you know there are no politicians who actually know something about the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Why do you think that the Constitution and Bill of Rights are not open to interpretation – which is why we have a Supreme Court? Your comment sounds pretty much like an echo from the conservative side. Maybe better to judge the event after it happens, based on real facts and what is actually said – and realize that even the liberals have the right to assemble and express their equally valid opinions.

      It would be interesting to hear your view if, say, the NRA were to hold a similar panel.

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      1. We know that this isnt a legitimate saftey panel because the panel is composed of all political activist groups with no balanced representation. If the church held a ProChoice panel on responsible abortions featuring Knights of Columbus and PLAL, it would be just as disingenuous. I’m not an NRA member [yet], but the NRA offers saftey courses year round, not just in the wake of politically convenient tragedies. Bad taste. Nathan, you’re a smart guy.

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  5. Nathaniel, you have gone completely off track here, but I’ll try to address your points.

    How do I know that the panel knows nothing about guns? Mom’s is a group that simply hates guns. They have never shown that they have any knowledge of the subject except that they’re scared of them. “Alliance of Gun Responsibility” is the same. “Washington CeaseFire” is a vehemently anti-gun PAC. “Grandmothers” is a new one on me. Patty Kuderer is a new Democratic state senator who will do what the rest of the Demos in state government tell her to do. Mike Nelson has stated in the past that he is a gun owner, but I’ve yet to see him demonstrate any support for other gun owners.

    How do I know there are no politicians who know something about the Constitution…? Because one is the President of the City Council in a very liberal city and the other is a virgin Democrat in the most liberal area of the country. Politicians is this area are famous for trampling on both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. See “Seattle City Council” and “Washington State Government”.

    Regarding “Constitution open to interpretation”… Did I say anything about that? I merely said that a discussion requires two sides and this is just a bunch of anti-gun people getting together to make themselves feel good. And yes, that is exactly why we have a Supreme Court to make these decisions, not Mom’s demanding action on something they don’t understand.

    Even liberals have the right to assemble… Of course they do, but don’t bill it as a “discussion” of something if there’s not any exchange of knowledge involved.

    What this boils down to is that, if this was really a forum to learn something, the organizers could have invited the Chief of Police. They could have invited the Sheriff. The 2nd Amendment Foundation is based in Bellevue and probably would have loved to send Dave Workman over to participate. They could have invited a firearms trainer. As it is, this is like having a panel discussion about boating safety with a bunch of people that occasionally ride the ferry as panel members.

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    1. Nathaniel knows, and I debate him often because he is very smart. His questions weren’t meant to be answered. The idea of Moms Demand Action coaching others on gun safety is Bad Faith. In the same way Nicolas Cruz grabbed the Speaking Conch via shooting people, these groups are grabbing the Conch via people shooting people. It’s how people feel relevant, but it’s all at the expense of kids who just wanted to go to school safely and law abiding citizens who have Constitutional rights.

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  6. Thank you to all who attended last night’s panel discussion. There were 61 in attendance- all there to learn more about how to get plugged in and contribute to the work of improving gun safety and reducing gun violence in our country. If you were unable to make the event you can still check out the group links above to learn more about how you can get involved: There are several groups that meet locally.

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