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Where are their leashes?
They are two feline felons.
Fining their owners would help the budget. Your photo could be the evidence needed.
The cat leash law is among the absolutely worst ordinances ever past by a then weak Council. It is unenforceable and is a benefit only to about the 2% of our population who hate animals in general and specifically cats.
The cost of fair and equitable enforcement is prohibitive. The city simply cannot afford it. Even worse it encourages a bad neighbor policy but only in the few areas inhabited by the haters. Cats are everywhere as anyone who walks in their neighborhood will note including mine. I have even seen them on city property doing their cat thing of discouraging the presence of rats and mice.
During the ordinance debate the Council appeared most impressed by the false statement that birds were disappearing in Edmonds because of cats. One person told the dramatic and disgusting tale of how her poor cat poop eating dog would dig up cat feces and then come inside and throw up on her new rug! Ugh, but it certaunly impressed the Council.
And Mayor Haakenson, to his credit, pointed out the fact that the city simple could and would not be able to afford proper and equitable enforcement.
The cat leash law should be repealed as it was in one of our neighboring cities, I’m not sure, but I think it was Mountlake Terrace. Edmonds should rejoin the majority of cities in the Puget Sound area that do not have such a sillyand laughable law.
My wife and I walk various parts of the city every day. Rarely do we see any cats, and never in all of our years of walking have we ever seen two cats together; that’s why I took the photo. We enjoyed seeing them.
Ron,
My guess is that you walk mostly during the day. When my husband and I take evening walks, we see cats roaming all over Edmonds. Cats are nocturnal animals. And I have never seen a leashed cat, thankfully.
Joan:
You are right; we are afternoon walkers. And we too have never seen a cat on a leash; that would be a strange sight.
Once again Ray you are right on. Now that Council member Bloom has seen the cats who are in violation of the law she may wish to lead a movement to repeal the law or in the alternative work with enforcement folks to find a way to enforce the law. As citizens which laws should we follow and which ones should we ignor? Maybe council should give the citizens some guidence. I a survey I took one day driving around town, 9 out of 13 dogs I saw who were on a leash were in violation of the law because they we are an non compliant leash.
The cat leash law actually passed?
The law passed and I know of a guy who was fined under the law. I think his neighbor complained and pushed for the fine. We have cat walking through our property all the time and I asked Animal Control about the new law. I will let them speak for themselves rather then report comments that were made at the time.
I believe this is the relevant law.
5.05.050 Running at large prohibited.
A. It shall be unlawful for the owner or person having charge, care, custody or control of any animal to allow such animal to run at large during any hours of the day or night. This section shall not apply to dogs owned by the city or other law enforcement agencies and maintained as police K-9 units while under the custody and control of the trainer or handler. Any animal found running at large may be seized and impounded.
Ther must be an exemption for the off leash dog park, right? What is a “compliant” leash?
Peter,
The law passed; the group IQ test by then Council, flunked. I wrote a letter to the Beacon at the time called “Fined — yourself in Edmonds.” I pointed out that the vermin did not have a leash law. That would become obvious if the leash law for cats was enforced.
Peter,
The Cat Leash law was actually passed on a 5 to 2 vote. Can you believe it?
Voting for: Olson, Marin, Orvis, Moore, and Wambolt. Voting against: Dawson and Plunkett. All of these folks with the exception of Michael Plunkett have left the Council and Michael will be departing shortly.
The triggering event was my complaint against a neighbor for luring, trapping, and abusing my cat Turbo. I figured out later that the baited trap had been working for about a month until the day Turbo outsmarted me and got out to his regret. He was one scared, bloody, filthy, hungry messed up cat when we were finally able to retrieve him. I understand the trapper had kept catching another neighbor’s cat and releasing it, which led me to believe Turbo was being deliberately targeted because I had caused the trappers to be warned by the police to keep their dog at home, while they kept insisting that their dog was not running loose. So I photographed the dog running loose. The dog catcher had also suggested this “get even” probability on a report. The former city attorney suggested that Turbo may have been guilty of trespassing. No charges were brought for the trapping that I believed to have been a violation of state law and a gross misdemeanor (along with the good neighbor policy).
With additional salt in the wound, the trapper successfully organized a minority of bird people and other assorted anti-cat folks, including the owner of the cat poop eating dog who then convinced the Council to pass this nutty law.
To adequately force this law down the throats of the citizens involuntarily at least one additonal and unaffordable full time cat enforcement officer would be required and which would also cause unnecesary PR problems for our outstanding police dept. We simply cannot afford the cost nor the disconnect it would create between citizens and city goverment. A levy would then be even less likely to pass.
I believe now the only enforcement occurs after complaint of a very few chronic complainers. Most cat owners are unaffected. The quality of life in the few areas with a chronic complainer is reduced a bit and thats not good. Initially it was especially tough on families with kids who were not used to keeping their kitties prisoners. Another even more undesirable fact is that this law encourages many of our adaptative citizens to work quite sucessfully around law enforcement with little risk. And our one current dog catcher doen’t really need the extra work of having to be playing hide and seek games with cats and cat owners. I’ve observed a “staking out ” on occassion in my neighborhood which always gives me a chuckle.
Peter, I’ve talked to many folks, who like yourself are a bit stunned to learn the cat leash law really exists! And that even included one Edmonds police officer.
The Edmonds cat leash law is just too moronic for our otherwise sensible city. It should quietly go away. I would bet money that the current Council would vote precisely the opposite, that is at least 5-2 against, if the issue would be reconsidered. It might just help the Council’s goodwill enough to get a needed levy passed.
And that sequence would certainly be best for all concerned,
I suggest that anyone wanting to know ALL of the story related to Ordinance 3645, that I posted in #11, should read the city council minutes for the meeting of May 15, 2007.
Ron,
Hopefully this link to the minutes referenced will work:
https://edmondswa.gov/images/COE/Government/City_Council/Minutes/2007/070515_Approved_City_Council_Minutes.pdf
I just reviewed the minutes, and my recollection had been that the student representative, Shaun Callahan, summed the opposition to confinement of cats up nicely. This was the first time that I noticed the astute, intelligent, input of our student reps to council. Peter Gibson carried that on nicely, as has our current rep, Alex Springer.
Joan, your public comment for this meeting seemed to be against a cat leash law. Maybe you could get it repealed.
The leash discussion is on the city web site and states some thing about the leash and the whole issue of walking animals on leashes it states. “If a leash is used, then it must be no longer than eight feet in length and have a person capable of controlling the animal at the other end. In addition, a person walking any animal must have a bag, scoop, or other device to remove feces for eventual disposal of the waste. An Animal Control Officer must view leash and scoop law violations for animals running at large in order to take immediate enforcement action.”
The leash cannot be longer 8 feet. Almost all of the retractable leashes for sale exceed that length and are 16ft.
Wow, all this sounds like a council meeting discussion. Or at least the comments of the meeting Ron W and Joan B referenced.
The intent of the revised ordinance, as it applies to cats, was never to require that they be on leashes. The intent of the ordinance is to restrict cats from intruding on the private property of others and causing a problem. It was never expected that the police would respond to a complaint about a cat roaming down a sidewalk – complaints that very likely never will arise anyway.
Joan: I agree with you assessment of recent student reps. We’ve got a bunch of bright young people coming along.
Well, the cat leash law combined with the regulations about dog leash lengths could work to enhance the revenue of the City if they are enforced and fines collected! I know I would be fined for the 25 foot retractable leash my little dog uses, and the City needs the money right:))))) Just saying it is an economic opportunity area….
Quick summary: Ray Martin and his neighbor couldn’t get along, dragged the council into it, wasted a lot of time, money and energy.
Michael,
Setting your usual off track personal attacks aside, you are quite right when you state the cat leash law has wasted a lot of time, money and energy. However, it is but a somewhat inconsequential minor drag on the overall quality of life in a great little city.
Ron, I wonder how many Esperance area incorporation voters continue to be influenced by your well “intended” but largely and inequitably and/or unenforced cat leash law. And incidentally, there HAS been unnecessary cat situations (and not involving ourselves) in our neighborhood as a direct result of this law which firmly contradicts your statements.
Ray, I bow to your unimpeachable knowledge of personal attacks.