Letter to the editor: Safe storage requirement for firearms a ‘clear violation’ of state law

Dear Editor,

Edmonds City Council’s adoption of a so-called “safe storage” requirement for firearms is a clear violation of state law.

We strongly oppose this attempt by the City of Edmonds to erode state preemption (RCW 9.41.290). State law prohibits cities, towns and counties or other municipalities from adopting gun laws that exceed state authority. The state legislature has sole authority to adopt gun laws including, but not limited to, registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge and transportation of firearms. Firearms safety is paramount, and while safe storage is laudable, breaking the law is not. The City of Edmonds cannot break the law to adopt an ordinance as a political statement.

Sincerely,

State Senate candidate James Wood

State House candidate Diodato Boucsieguez (Position 1) 

State House candidate Frank Deisler (Position 2)

32nd District

65 Replies to “Letter to the editor: Safe storage requirement for firearms a ‘clear violation’ of state law”

  1. I don’t even have a gun, but I want one now so that I may store it however I like in the privacy of my private residence. #Secondammendment

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  2. “but not limited to” are the key words. Edmonds City Council were not ignorant of this any more than those in Olympia who willfully failed to fund education. I safely store my firearms, but am in willful violation of their rule. Fine me first, or your law is nullified.

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  3. Here is the entire text of the state law. This ordinance will not stand and I call for all citizens of Edmonds to demand that those council members that voted for this be required to pay any legal costs in this matter out of their own pockets.

    RCW 9.41.290
    State preemption.
    The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality.

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        1. I read ‘possession’ as having/owning, not related to how someone behaves while they are in possession. Refusing to safely store firearms is a behavior, not the actual possession of said firearm(s).
          As far as the RCW, there is still no mention of storage within the regulations that can be pre-empted by the state.

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        2. Heather, Our former Republican AG, Rob McKenna, appears to concur with your interpretation of “possession”: “The reason the city might not be preempted by state law is that they’re regulating storage, not ownership or possession,” former state Attorney General Rob McKenna told Seattle’s Morning News.

          As reported in a right-of-center news source, nonetheless:
          http://mynorthwest.com/1048876/seattle-gun-control-laws-preemption/

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        3. Heather, what about the bit that reads “The state […] fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation”? What way would you reword this? Maybe, “The state makes all the gun rules except in cases where a City Council or duly-elected Dog Catcher has some ideas.” I heard Mike Nelson is a lawyer. Do tell.

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        4. Laura, Fake News is the art of reporting facts in a misleading way. Rob McKenna isn’t giving his interpretation of “possession” in that interview. He’s musing about how a lower court might uphold the Seattle law. 2A cases usually require one or two appeals to get above partisan activists. I think it would be great for Seattle to settle yet another gun law for the rest of the Country. It would be great to have Bob Ferguson involved in another failure.

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  4. Please, without copying and pasting from SAF, show me where the 4 words “but not limited to” are actually stated in the state preemption law, RCW 9.41.290.

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    1. James Wood is paraphrasing. The interpretation “but not limited to” is the same as “or any other element relating to” – which is in the law. Besides, the RCW is redundant. The last 10 years, mostly since DC v. Heller, courts have overturned a line of state and local gun laws based on loose interpretations and seized powers. Initiative 1639, even if law, will fail for that reason, and in that it violates Equal Protection of the Law under the 14th Amendment.

      Planned Parenthood of Central Missouri v. Danforth, “Constitutional rights do not mature and come into being magically only when one attains the state-defined age of majority.” [Planned Parenthood of Central Missouri v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52, 74 (1976)].

      Is having an AR-15 a Constitutional Right? Yup, plenty of minors have them. It’s a regular gun, less powerful than many hunting rifles. It’s just an open-source specification that many gun makers build to.
      I was handed one at 17 in the Air Force.

      Law-abiding citizens would Amend the Constitution. Many thanks to David Clem, here and in other threads, for helping folks out.

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      1. Except “or any other element relating to” is not only incomplete, your substitutive use is out of order in the sentence. The RCW reads “or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof”- which many interpret to be any part of the firearm itself including- “including ammunition and reloader components.” To add a phrase absent in the actual RCW- in this case “but not limited to”- before the listing of specific preempted regulations (of which storage is notably absent) is a rewritten interpretation, this one taken verbatim from the SAF press release.

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        1. Laws dictating what color the gun needs to be are also not enumerated in the Preemption, so in theory Mike could write a law dictating that all guns be painted bright orange for public safety because “color” is not enumerated. Gun safes are in every firearms magazine because gun safes are “elements relating to firearms”.

          Laura, I applaud your activism. The Edmonds Moms are furious with me, and as a family man I gotta leave you with the last word.

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  5. Thank you to these candidates for being Exhibit A for why people can’t stand the current state of our politics. There is overwhelming support for keeping children safe, but a law encouraged by a moneyed out of state (and maybe out of country) interest like the NRA gives cowards a place to hide. These guys find smart storage “laudable” but they would rather shrug their shoulders and claim their hands are tied. Legislators should legislate in the best interest of their constituents. Instead constituents are left to appeal to the local politicians, who are most likely to hear them, the ones lowest on the political stage. Then they must wait for the court battle to sort it all out. It’s a lousy way to run a government, at any level. If these candidates Wood, Boucssieguez, and Deisler would like the honor of serving the public, they should take a page from the City Council of Edmonds and listen to their potential constituents rather than bowing to the NRA.

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    1. Please tell me where the NRA comes into this discussion. This is about existing Washington law stating that cities cannot have lost more stringent laws than the state, that relate to firearms. That is the entire problem here.

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      1. The law referenced here is part of a series of laws passed in states across the nation during the 90’s encouraged by the gun lobby to limit the power of local governments regarding gun control. It was a strategy that allowed the NRA to focus their lobbying and campaign contributions on state and federal legislators. It’s a whole lot cheaper to buy off the state and feds than buy off every individual county commissioner and city council.

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        1. Mayor Dave Earling’s campaign was bought and paid for by $ 25,000.00 from a Chicago firm. What interest would Chicago have in Edmonds WA? Lots of questions to be answered regarding that donation.
          This must be the out of sate money your reference? Rather sad isn’t it.
          Obviously he would fail, if he had to raise money locally.
          The Edmonds City Council listened to no-one in drafting an illegal ordinance, they write illegal laws to appear relevant and promote their political party agendas regarding “hot topics”.
          They fail at running Edmonds, but act as though they know how to run the Country.

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  6. Dear Mr. Wood, Mr. Boucsieguez and Mr. Deisler,

    It’s good to understand candidates’ positions and suggestions for improvements. Far too often, candidates do not share their views before the election.

    Thank you for this letter.

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  7. I am very tired of any state trying to take away our rights. Locking up bad characters and keeping them there is the answer. We have great laws on the books. How many times do we hear someone arrested with a three inch file was let go because of no space in the jails? I say keep them locked up, build more jails. Make jails “make” something to keep them sustained or have them eat the food they grow. These people are REPEAT offenders. Locking my gun up is not going to change a thing. Allowing drug addicts and worse live in the neighborhood is NOT the answer for me to lock my gun up. I grew up with guns, rifles, etc and I couldn’t of cared less. My father had a “gun closet” and he made it clear I better never open it, and I didn’t. Top latches for small children would have worked too. Bottom line- 99% of we the people are NOT the offenders. There will always be accidents with any weapon or non weapon, accidents happen.

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  8. Sandra, The NRA is only a group of citizens (we the people) who mostly own guns. I’m a member, and they do listen to gun owners needs. Which really is to protect all people’s rights to own guns. If you haven’t heard in the last 10 years, this state wants to take your guns or regulate it so it’s impossible to have one. My lifelong Democrat father was a member. There are also TONS of members in this state who hunt for food. Regulations hurt them. Most men who hunt teach their kids at a young age how to hunt. Then there is the people who want a gun for protection. In a city this size, how many people are coming here daily attracted to our many jobs available? Well, BAD guys are attracted here too for the same reason. I remember what happened to Houston Texas years ago. Booming city, attracting good and bad people. People who never had a gun bought one because it took so long for police to get to your home. Well, I’m seeing the same signs here. Not enough olive, and TONS of criminal elements (homeless and worse) welcomed here.

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    1. Joy, While no one but the NRA really knows how many people are NRA members, the NRA claims approximately 6 million, a tiny fraction of the well over 300 million Americans. Well over half of NRA members in polls support universal background checks and other smart gun safety legislation. While in the past the NRA lobbied for gun sport interests (like access to hunting lands) and safe gun education, they now spend the majority of their resources spreading fear-filled propaganda and encouraging more sales to people who have no knowledge of safe gun ownership. Unfortunately, it sounds like you have been a victim of their propaganda campaign because as in this issue that only serves to encourage safe fire arm storage, no one has attempted to come to your door and take your gun away. I’ve yet to see any legislation that hurts sport hunters. As someone who grew up in a household with wild game supplementing my dinner plate, and as the daughter of a man who needed to hunt or go hungry, and as someone who grew up in a community where the local fish and wildlife officer looked the other way when food insecure families hunted out of season, I can promise you that safely storing your fire arms (like the ones in my house were as a child) will not infringe on your need to gather protein. This is a long way of saying that, I am sure you are no more or less an expert on this than I, who received their NRA sponsored, orange hunter’s safety card at age 12. What is different today is that many if not most gun owning households in our urban areas do not have the benefit of a strong rural gun culture that promotes safety before all else. This is a different time and place. I don’t see hungry high school students leave school with a shotgun in their hand to go hunt down dinner in Meadowdale Park. I do know some Edmonds residents who supplement their groceries with game, but even they will tell you, by the time they buy the tag, pay for gas, provisions, gear, ammo, and a camping spot, it isn’t the most economically efficient way to bring meat to their table. Again times have changed. I am grateful to live in a community that is safe enough that I don’t feel the urge to arm myself and I recognize that my family is statistically more safe without a killing machine in the house than with one. If fellow residents feel they must have a gun, their are multiple gun safes and devices that allow for quick access in an emergency. Gun accidents are not new, but as we live in a more and more dense community, it’s important that we allow our local government to keep us safe by enacting common sense rules. This is no different than ordinances regarding fireworks. When you live in close quarters the irresponsibility of one neighbor can tragically change the life of another.

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      1. Sandra, I ask you one more time, where does the NRA enter into this conversation? This discussion is about an Edmonds city ordinance that violates Washington State law.

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    2. Unfortunately, the NRA that was created in 1871 to promote hunting, marksmanship, and SAFETY through their support of common-sense gun laws, is not all that it used to be (to which my gun-owning relatives would sadly agree). Starting slowly in the 1970’s, and full speed in the mid-1980’s the NRA grew a powerful lobbying arm (NRA-Institute for Legislative Action) which focuses on lobbying in favor of preemption laws, concealed carry-reciprocity, removing laws on silencers, the ban on federal funding for gun violence research, pediatrician gag-laws, and more.
      https://www.npr.org/2017/10/10/556578593/the-nra-wasnt-always-against-gun-restrictions
      https://www.nraila.org/about/
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35261394
      https://everytownresearch.org/reports/not-your-grandparents-nra/

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  9. Hey friends. The constitution and it’s amendments are up for interpretation. So much has been said with people FOR the gun side interpretation. How about using our head and hearts. I care for kids and all people NOT getting killed. I have a right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness when I don’t own a gun. I am sad that so many people use guns to solve problems and get killed. I am NOT happy when I see a GUN sticking out of someone’s jeans while I’m walking down the street…I feel terrified. And I have the liberty to ask people to care for their guns so that others don’t accidentally get a hold of them. Responsible gun owners usually agree. Some don’t. What comes first….a “toy” of the lives of fellow humans? I realize that my words won’t convince the person who wrote the letter to the editor, but in the string on replies I did want to give the other point of view, even if no one will read this far down the line of replies 🙂

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    1. ” I am NOT happy when I see a GUN sticking out of someone’s jeans while I’m walking down the street…I feel terrified.”

      As a popular meme on Facebook states: My rights don’t end where your feelings begin.

      Have you considered educating yourself about firearms? I am a pistol instructor and have taught several women in the past. To a person, they all said that learning to shoot was an educational in empowering experience.

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  10. Yes it is good to know where candidates stand before we vote. As a grandmother concerned about the safety of my grandchildren at Edmonds Woodway High School, I will definitely NOT be voting for Mr. Wood, Mr. Boucsieguez or Mr. Deisler.

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  11. David. Read above. The state law in question passed in the 90’s is part of a national campaign by the NRA to focus gun legislation and debate at the state level and above.

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    1. The law was passed in 1985. What I read above was that you believe in a conspiracy that the NRA somehow bought off Washington lawmakers. This is the kind of thing that makes your side of the discussion impossible to accept. So many people on that side operate on nothing but emotion and mis-information that you can’t be taken seriously.

      The FACT here is that Edmonds has created an unenforceable and illegal ordinance that will end up costing us, the taxpaying citizens of the city, a ton of money.

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      1. Nope, not a conspiracy theory: Here it is straight from the NRA’s lobbying arm:
        “While the story of Right to Carry is well known, many are not aware of the equally important success that we’ve had in advancing firearm preemption laws in state legislatures. These laws generally preclude local governments from enacting any additional regulations on firearms or ammunition beyond state law. Without firearm preemption, gun owners would be subjected to a patchwork of hundreds or even thousands of different sets of laws in every state.” https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180330/preemption-protects-gun-owners

        “These efforts include enacting laws that recognize the right of honest citizens to carry firearms for self-protection; preemption bills to prevent attacks on gun owner rights by local anti-gun politicians, and fighting for legislation to prevent the bankrupting of America’s firearms industry through reckless lawsuits.” https://www.nraila.org/about/

        And viewpoints that describe to position many of us take: “Over the last four decades, the leaders of the National Rifle Association have steered the organization away from advocating on behalf of sportsmen and hunters towards lobbying for the most extreme policies and opposing virtually all gun violence prevention legislation. In recent years, that’s meant working tirelessly to prevent the passage of common-sense laws that would do more to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.” https://everytownresearch.org/issue/the-gun-lobby/

        “As the result of a concerted lobbying campaign by the National Rifle Association, more than 40 states have passed broad firearm preemption laws that specifically prohibit local governments from adopting reasonable gun laws tailored to local conditions. These laws prevent local mayors and police chiefs — the officials most familiar with local criminal activity and how to address it — from passing common-sense public safety measures designed to keep their communities safe.” https://everytownresearch.org/fact-sheet-preemption-laws/

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  12. Interesting discussion. Thoughtful and factual from one perspective, sensationalist and emotional from the other. I hope we don’t make any lawyers rich off of this and I can’t figure out what town some of these contributors live in. Edmonds is a wonderful place to live.

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  13. David, this law became effective in 1994. It was introduced in the 80’s. I think we can call a draw on that little technical detail. And yes, a law like this specifically denying local governments from introducing legislation regarding firearms does not come out of thin air. There are special interests behind it. The NRA rates lawmakers on a grading scale and interestingly enough, those that take money from the NRA vote in line with the gun lobby. That’s not conspiracy and that’s not based on my emotional response. I stand with people who use their common sense backed up by statistics that say we should do what we can to make things safer in our community. Roughly 1/3 of Washington residents own guns and a little over 1/3 of those don’t lock their guns up. This ordinance encourages smart behavior by residents. The actual FACT is that our local law makers connected with constituents to find a way to make Edmonds a happier and healthier place by addressing this issue within the parameters of state law. The interpretation of it’s illegality by 3 as of yet un-elected candidates has no bearing on FACT.

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  14. Hummmmm …… perhaps those against safe storage of guns should give your opinion to the murdered children’s families at Marysville High School!
    The young student got all the guns to kill his friends and himself from unsecured areas at home.
    Why don’t you send the surviving letters about how securing your weapons at home is not important.
    Just remember this could have been a local high school and the murdered children could be your children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, friends, brothers, sisters.
    Now is it worth it?
    I am not against your right to have guns , I am for the safety of children.

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    1. Really, the conversation was civil before a Council Member waded in.

      Ian Taylor of Moms Demand Action told me that Nicolas Cruz was not at fault for shooting up the school. I asked, “Do you feel like marches like these feed into his motivations?” I noted that Cruz specifically mentioned he wanted attention for shooting schools. Taylor said, “Not at all. His brain isn’t formed enough, he is only 19 and not old enough to understand right and wrong. People his age shouldn’t be allowed access to firearms.” I asked, “Because he’s so young?” “Yes, he’s a child and partly a victim in all this.” I had to ask twice, and was reaffirmed that Nicolas Cruz was not completely at fault.

      https://myedmondsnews.com/2018/02/rally-hope-reduce-gun-violence-set-monday-afternoon-edmonds/

      Adrienne, you’re saying it wasn’t the criminal’s fault too. I’m pretty sure Nicholas Cruz would of had his own gun safe, with his own code, had your law been in place in Florida, or Marysville. Care to walk this back?

      No one’s against safe storage of guns, so you’re arguing against points no one is making. Also, if I could do anything about shootings, I’d put gun safes in the schools, have a few teachers trained, that way the teachers (who I trust with my kids’ lives) would have what they need to engage. Trust teachers, arm some of them.

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    2. Ms. Fraley-Monillas, Reading all the comments, I am left with a sense that you, who heads up our city council, just wrote the most unintelligible, hard to read statement in this entire thread. Did you re-read what you wrote? It comes across as a mass of words based on very high emotions, but not many facts.

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    3. Adrienne, the only letter you should be concerned with is the one you’ll be receiving notifying you that you’ve been named in a lawsuit.

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      1. I agree with the above comment by Jeff Gray and I certainly hope that the citizens/taxpayers will not have to pay a dime for the defense of the irresponsible and social engineering that these present council members represent. Obviously Ms Johnson and the council member who was absent are the only ones who understand the consequences of the stance this city council is taking. This city council needs to stop legislating and work on the real issues that affect their constituency. I hope the voters in Edmonds are going to hold these council members responsible for the many unpopular stances they have taken when it comes time to vote.

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  15. Okay, so this discussion has now degenerated into conspiracy theories and Mom’s Demand Action hand-wringing of the “we have to do SOMETHING, it’s for the CHILDREN” kind.

    I will make one more point and then call this a wrap on my end: At no point here did I say that I am against “safe storage” of firearms. My home is alarmed, has hardened doors and security cameras and ample “safe storage” inside. This ordinance does not affect me personally. The issue here, and my point from the beginning, is that this ordinance will not withstand a court challenge and it will cost me, and YOU, THOUSANDS of our tax dollars. It is not the signees of the letter to the editor making this prediction. Seattle is already on the receiving end of a lawsuit on their version of this. Edmonds will be next, then Everett. Virtue signalling has a price. We will all have to pay this price for this reckless ordinance.

    Over and out.

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    1. Claiming conspiracy theories, emotions, hand wringing, misinformation, and misguided action are the motivations for common sense gun safety legislation discredit and weaken your argument. I’ve laid out facts and evidence to back up my position. I know that’s tough to swallow. I find it interesting that you blame the city and your neighbors for putting us in the position of a potential lawsuit. Why not blame the out of state gun lobby interest that will potentially (as yet there is no guarantee) seek needless legal action? Who is really to blame in this scenario, the citizens trying to change behavior and bring awareness to a dangerous situation or the people who don’t have a stake in the health and well being of our community and can’t justify their actions with a single slice of moral high ground. The greater good is served by this ordinance, and justified by it’s overwhelming local support. If it turns out the city is needlessly brought into a lawsuit, I’m fine if we spend a few bucks proving that we acted within state laws and showing the rest of the state and nation it’s possible to take this on. I’m proud of a community willing to lead. I’m sorry you don’t like the style Mom’s Demand uses to push for change. My great grandmother was called pushy when she demanded the right to vote, my grandmother was called insufferable when she demanded equality in the work place, my mother was called hysterical when she called for better laws around drunk driving. I’ll take “hand-wringing, misguided, emotional mom doing anything I can to make children safer” all day long.

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      1. I do have a stake in this community, and act upon it every day. This is not a moral argument, it is a legal argument. Again, whether I have a CCP, a gun safe, a trigger lock, keep ammunition separate from the weapon, or dont own a gun at all isnt rhe question. Very few localities have been successful at passing laws that usurp State Laws. This isnt about, for me, whether I care about safe storage and transport, I do. This is about making a political statement versus governing. Political statements usually end up with a cost. I am not willing, as a taxpayer and active community member, see the Council decide that this legislation is worth the money. It is a good point made earlier that laws are up for interpretation, and very few locales have been successful with regulations governing weapons inside of a private residence.

        On the other hand, perhaps I should put on my conspiracy theory hat, and perhaps council worked with our local state legislators to bring light and support to this issue to garner support in the State House?

        As far as the council persons statement about a lack of care or empathy, I am going to chalk that up as banter. As the posts for this and other stories about this show, we all have a story, and accusations of immorality and lack of care for our fellow human beings further highlight why us progressives might be labeled as elitist in our ability to pass judgement on those with differing, but entirely legal and inoffensive views.

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  16. Dave, I don’t believe the Council actually thinks that a safe/fine law would have incentivised the Marysville shooter’s degenerate dad (who was legally barred from owning firarms in the first place) to put his illegal firearms in a safe. I don’t actually believe the City Council believes that they could have saved those lives with their law, or that they believe that people who oppose their law are supporting school shootings. Its rhetoric. I gotta zoom out and give them the benefit of the doubt.

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    1. I was in the Army for 9 years. My boyfriend had a gun collection. H&K, AR15, 9mm Baretta, German Army rifel, you name it, he had them. We put up targets in the desert and tried them all out. The German rifle was the most accurate, but heavy. And, of course, I qualified with the M16 every year. Yet to this day I don’t own a weapon. Where I grew up, nobody did. Any weapons used in a fight were either fists or knives. Nobody got killed, either. I don’t support this gun culture. The men who speak so loudly about carrying one are the overfed & undereducated types, never amounted to anything in their pitiful lives, but they have a BIG GUN, and that makes them feel like they are somebody. They belong in a cage!

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      1. “Any weapons used in a fight were either fists or knives. Nobody got killed, either.”

        It’s weird that you’re advocating fists or knives over M16’s. Blunt force and stabbing accounts for more murders than all rifles of all types combined. It’s the little guns, not the BIG GUNS, that account for most homicides. I might agree with gun laws if there were any demonstrable results, from cities like WA DC, that showed tough laws resulted in less violence. Even in the examples the

        I might be uneducated, but every country with high violence has few guns (think Mexico). The facts aren’t binary; all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. No country has many guns in private circulation, and high murder rates. Even in the domestic example Councilwoman Fraley-Monillas co-opted, her law would of had no effect. Criminals break laws.

        be sure to read the follow-up cited:
        https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2013/03/the-correlation-between-guns-and-homicide-rate.html

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      2. Elena, Men: You have called them names, made statements as to their worth, and judged them to “belong in a cage”. Which is just exactly your opinion is worth.

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      3. David, Elena is saying men with BIG GUNS are fat, dumb and are compensating for a small phallus. It’s the sort of unchecked sexism men endure. I was hoping to ask her for her ex-bf’s contact info because he sounds like I nice guy and I could use some new friends.

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        1. Can you just imagine if the same comment was written with the word “women”, instead of “men”.? There would be extreme outrage within our community. There is a “new” tolerance for calling men, especially white men, names. It is not ok with me, hence my comment to Elena Pope.

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  17. Laura – thank you for your clear and consistent advocacy for gun sanity. Your firmness and courtesy are also a breath of fresh air amidst a debate sometime generating a good deal more passion than reason.

    From a personal and anecdotal point of view – and as a former US Olympic Biathlon Team member whose father was a well-known gunsmith – I see no reason to need a weapon in the first place. I’ve lived in Edmonds since 1961 and never needed one to defend myself, and I summered every year on a ranch in a pretty wild area, and all I ever had was an ax handle or a baseball bat handy in case. But “in case” never arrived, nor am I prepared to kill someone over property. Personally then, my feeling is that some people have given in to fear.

    I am not for “taking away our guns,” But reasonable precautions are just that: reasonable. Thank you for your advocacy.

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  18. Mr. Malgarin
    The mayor did not need any money in the 2015 election because there was no candidate running against him.

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  19. Ron,
    Earling’s first election was funded by $ 25,000.00 from Chicago.
    You do not know what you are talking about.

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    1. Your original posting made no mention of the 2011 election, so I logically assumed that you were referencing the most recent election in 2015. Earling’s first election, for mayor, in 2011 was funded by more than $62,000 in contributions with none of those contributions exceeding $500.

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  20. Ron,
    My oh my,
    https://www.heraldnet.com/news/lots-of-independent-expenditures-for-earling-and-wilcox/

    By Evan Smith, Herald writer
    Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:35pmLocal NewsSouth County Politics

    Outside organizations have spent more than $28,000 in support of Edmonds candidates Dave Earling and Bob Wilcox.

    Independent expenditures can’t be coordinated with campaigns and, by U.S. Supreme Court ruling, aren’t subject to contribution limits like Washington’s maximum contribution of $800 to any candidate for the primary and $800 for the general election, or Edmonds’ stricter limit of $500 for an entire election cycle.

    Earling has had the support of $26,720 from the National Association of Realtors for direct mailing, and for polling and consulting that helped form the content of the direct mail. The Chicago-based National Association paid for the services at the recommendation of the Washington Association of Realtors, The Snohomish County Association of Realtors has endorsed Earling.

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      1. Ron,
        Not your fault. The PDC records in the past showed a single contribution from Chicago. Who requested the change?

        Those records have now been changed and the donation location of Chicago has been stripped and washed from the system to hide the facts from the VOTERS in Edmonds. As well, the amounts of the contributions have been split into small segments to comply with Edmonds Law.

        A formal complaint has been filed with the State of Washington for Campaign finance violations and other aspects.

        The Edmonds voters are being played, by out of state money. Edmonds voters have a legal right to know the truth.

        The money was donated “at the recommendation of” WA, but the money was not from WA, it was from Chicago. And any notation of Chicago has been stripped from the PDC system, at least that I could find. The only reason that would happen, is to mislead and hide the facts from Edmonds Voters.

        This will all be exposed in the end.
        Sadly, Edmonds needs to start draining ……….it’s own political swamp.

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        1. Brent, as you know national money flows into local elections. When I was involved in politics, I knew of events like dinners and conventions where local politicians could solicit for money in exchange for political promises. All that can be done is to know about it and point it out to others. It’s a wider scheme designed as a farm-team for higher offices. City Councils, especially, have become a vehicle for this. Vacancy Appointments, in my opinion are the grander scheme, often coriographed by outside interests, but always partisan nonetheless. Mike was appointed. Strom was appointed. Kiss the ring.

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    1. Thanks for keeping these politics in the light, Brent. We need local people on the council and in the mayor’s office.

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      1. “Local people”? Edmonds elected officials must have been residents of Edmonds for a minimum of one year before being elected.

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        1. Yes Ron, The appointed/elected council and mayor are preoccupied with national politics. A straw ban is not a local movement. It’s national dumbness test designed to see if an official plays ball. Traditional Marriage was a dumbness test of the same design. Our city government has become a vehicle of the DNC. We need local people and balance. Who disagrees with this? Could some locals please step up, run for mayor-council? If you run again, Ron, you have my vote and what ever help I can provide. I’ll take that off Darrol’s head to throw it in. I want to live here.

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  21. I meant to say, I’ll throw Darrol’s hat in the ring for him. I am even too busy with work to be an articulate MEN yenta. The gun rhetoric has me too wound up, need to focus locally myself and stop commenting again.

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    1. I can’t find the code to open my gun safe to pull the trigger on my candidacy. If I were to run I would do a bang up job with Matts help. Hopefully Edmonds can field a great set of candidates for our next election.

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