Updated Thursday with responses from three additional councilmembers.
Mayor Mike Nelson’s new administrative order, announced Tuesday, sounds simple and straightforward:
“The City of Edmonds places the highest value on our employees and their well-being. We strive to ensure that our employees are satisfied workers and have the resources and support necessary to be effective and productive in their positions.”
— Mayor’s Administrative Order on Workplace Professionalism
In the administrative order, you will read the words “unprofessional,” “discrimination,” “harassment,” “inappropriate” — nowhere is the word “bullying” used. But, make no mistake about it, “bullying” is the target and Edmonds city councilmembers are in the crosshairs.
I sat down with the mayor Wednesday to get his take on why he felt he had to issue an order that states:
“It has come to our attention that City employees have experienced workplace interactions with City Councilmembers that the employees have felt to be unprofessional, and that such interactions may have impacted employee productivity and job satisfaction.”
— Mayor’s Administrative Order on Workplace Professionalism
“This is not a political issue,” said Nelson, “Nobody should be bullied. People should not be bullied and there’s no tolerance of bullying. And I’m not going to allow people to bully the city staff; especially people like our city councilmembers.”
Nelson is blunt – “All you have to do,” he told me, “is watch a city council meeting and you can see sometimes how councilmembers will direct their questions to staff members, and you can tell they are treating them in way like they don’t know what the hell they’re doing, and that they are idiots and that they are incompetent.”
Nelson said some councilmembers “are critical of them (city staffers); they’re criticizing them and then, they are threatening them” – and he alleges that the councilmember will threaten to complain to the mayor or to the department head. He claims that is why some staffers have left the city, that other employees don’t want to work here, and still others will not take a job in Edmonds.
I asked how many staffers feel the council is intimidating or harassing them. Maybe 20 to 30, he answered. How many have said they don’t want to continue to work here, I asked? “I don’t have a number,” Nelson replied. The city has 350 employees.
There has been discontent among some city staff. We have reported on concerns among Edmonds public works staffers during COVID, and the union representing wastewater treatment plant workers has complained about new hires and staff shortages.
Other published reports cite an “informal worker survey.” This quote is from an unnamed employee who is said to have responded to the survey: “I have felt over the years very grateful that I don’t have to interact with council and the mayor because they have accused staff of having hidden agendas, or the hoops they make us go through to prove that what we are doing is in the best interest of the public.”
In each quote from the survey, staffers mention the council and the mayor when they speak of concerns. When I asked the mayor about that survey, he told me that he hadn’t yet seen it; that it was conducted only among staff in the development services department, and that the comments were intended for follow-up discussion during a departmental retreat which has not yet been held.
The new administrative order further tells employees who feel they have experienced unprofessional or inappropriate interaction with the city council, to take their concerns to the human resources department, which may initiate an investigation.
The city already has policies to address job harassment or discrimination. I asked Nelson why Edmonds needs a new policy. He said this is a different dynamic at work; that the council does not supervise city staff; that these issues may not rise to the level of official discrimination or job harassment, that workers may feel powerless to complain about perceived bullying by council members.
Some members of the city council said they feel blindsided by the mayor’s action:
After the city sent out a press release Tuesday afternoon announcing the administrative order, Council President Vivian Olson said: “It saddens me that the mayor doesn’t work with councilmembers directly to resolve any communications concerns and that he distributes a policy naming council to staff and press without council engagement (or even knowledge of) the policy.”
Nelson sent the following email response to Olson Wednesday:
Subject: Re: Media Release – Mayor Issues Anti-Bullying Order of City Staff
“Council President,
Just want to make sure I understand you correctly…you want council input/influence on a policy that was crafted to protect city employees from bullying by Council?
Mike”
Councilmember Will Chen told me: “I am not aware of any bullying happening within our city government. I wish the council is made aware of the issue and can be part of the process for building a respectful work environment among different governmental branches. In fact, a respectful and professional work environment can only be achieved by all personnel involved, elected or not.”
Councilmember Susan Paine responded: “All of the city’s employees deserve a workplace that is free from council interactions that are unprofessional and a distraction, or worse, by having any councilmember direct their work. The expectation of workplace professionalism by council isn’t unreasonable and I hope that city staff know that their work is valued by our residents and also by me as a councilmember. We have a solid code of conduct and I trust that all councilmembers are following it both in its intent and also recognizing that behaviors have impact.”
Councilmember Neil Tibbott commented: “It’s regrettable the mayor chose to address a concern without talking with councilmembers. I truly do not know what has happened or what he considers “bullying.” I have had nothing but courteous and useful communication with our city staff If I’m bullying someone, I’d like to know that so I can fix the problem. As it is, I’m left in the dark like most of us on the council. Personally, I look forward to working with our city staff to serve our wonderful city together. We make a great team.”
Councilmember Laura Johnson added her response: “It is disingenuous for anyone, especially those on Council, to say they are unaware that council conduct with city staff is an issue. There is a decade-plus of news reports on the issue and there have been many documented public comments, as well as private conversations. Two years ago, I sent the email below with council bcc’d and submitted a LTE to the Edmonds Beacon regarding council conduct. The issue has continued despite numerous reports and attempts to bring it to light and address it. It has impacted the vity’s ability to attract, hire, and retain staff members. This is wrong from both an ethical and fiduciary perspective. It is unfortunate that the mayor felt it necessary to step in and do what Council could not- ensure all Councilmember’s conduct with City staff is both professional and respectful.”
Councilmember Diane Buckshinis said: “This is the fourth mayor that I have worked with and it is unfortunate that this mayor chose to make statements publicly without facts, documents or discussion with some councilmembers or the council president. I am unaware of any complaints, concerns or bullying issues brought forth from any employee or through the human resource director, or mayor. Every employee of the city deserves respect and attention, and these issues should not and will not be taken lightly and our human resource director affirmed to me this commitment.
“Most importantly, we all need to work together — as the city has some serious issues at hand such as: our sewer treatment plant and capacity issues, Civic Field cost overruns, our lack of comprehensive codes, our comprehensive planning updates, our human services updates, the upgrading of our entire software system and a new budgeting module purchased first, updating our comprehensive emergency management plan, finalizing our tree code, working on fixing our federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act audit findings, our American Rescue Plan Act funding changes and consultant hiring, correcting the capital facilities plan and capital improvement plans …. and so much more – so maybe this is the crux of the issue? The tremendous workload that we face and two new councilmembers that ask questions? Whatever the resolve, we must all work together to provide the citizens with the best answers and optimal operating and professional conditions so that we can continue to gain the trust of our citizens.”
And Councilmember Kristiana Johnson added: “I think the mayor’s comments were politically motivated. He has taken no responsibility for the turnover of his directors. While he blames the council, he has not taken the time to discuss his concerns with the council.”
I asked the mayor if he had approached or worked with any councilmembers before he published his new order. He told me: “No, unfortunately, it’s sort of like I’ve never met a bully that knows they’re a bully or admits that they are a bully.”
I then asked whether he was saying the councilmembers are bullies. “I’m not saying councilmembers are bullies,” Nelson said. “I’m saying I have seen bullying by councilmembers on city staff; yes, yes. Not the whole council.”
The last two years in Edmonds government have been, at times, tumultuous; from the tortured search for a new police chief, to budget squabbles, to the council elections last November. Nelson said he had been hopeful that a new council would ease what had become a rocky relationship, but added:
“This is not any better. In fact, it’s getting worse; that’s the reality, it’s getting worse,” the mayor said. “Should I have stepped in sooner; probably, yeah, there’s no question I could probably have taken some actions to address this sooner; maybe like you, I was hoping that with new people, they’ll be a new dynamic, but that didn’t happen.”
He feels, he told me, that he must protect his staff; that at the end of the day, he is responsible for “seeing that we have a healthy and safe workplace for our employees.” He warned that if the council does not treat staff more respectfully, he can and will change the way the council gets information from the city; that it could mean working only through department directors, not support staff.
There is much more at stake than a policy to try to curb perceived bullying by some councilmembers. That may be the flashpoint. But what is on the line is whether the mayor and the council can find any common ground, any way to work together and trust each other to tackle the issues that will help move the city into the future.
— By Bob Throndsen
“This is not a political issue,” said Nelson
Nonsense. This is totally a political issue. Nelson is targeting CMs that do not fall into lockstep with his agenda. The fact the he will not cite any specific instances other than his own interpretation of what constitutes bullying makes this glaringly obvious.
I think he is finally realizing that he is going to be unceremoniously dumped come election time and will continue to lash out with nonsense such as this until that times come. I honestly cannot recall a mayor who has been so deeply unpopular.
I watch City Government very closely and have witnessed City Councilmembers praise and thank City Staff repeatedly for years. Following are examples from the May 3, 2022 Meeting Minutes:
-Councilmember Buckshnis thanked staff for a complete packet.
-Councilmember Paine thanked staff for answering questions for her about the timeline.
-Councilmember Chen thanked Mr. English, Mr. Hauss and Ms. Reid, stating he excited for this project as his home and business are both close to Highway 99.
The following has been part of the City’s Personnel Policies the entire time Mike Nelson has been Mayor of Edmonds:
2.5 COMPLAINT PROCESS: DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, OR RETALIATION
Harassment, particularly sexual harassment, and discrimination can be difficult to define. For this reason, the City strongly urges employees to use this harassment and discrimination reporting procedure without worrying about whether the conduct involved would be considered harassment or discrimination in a legal sense. This policy is intended to assist the City in addressing not only illegal harassment and discrimination, but also any conduct that is offensive and inappropriate.
If, at any time, you believe that you are being subjected to harassment or discrimination, if you become aware of such conduct being directed at someone else, or if you believe another employee has received more favorable treatment because of discrimination, you must promptly notify Human Resources or a manager or director with whom you feel comfortable. This applies to harassment or discrimination caused by anyone with whom an employee comes into contact with as part of the employee’s job, such as supervisors, co-workers, citizens, vendors or others.
Supervisors and managers have an obligation to immediately report to Human Resources and the Mayor any harassment or discrimination that they observe or become aware of during the course of their employment.
Mayor Nelson is a bully. He has attacked and belittled his constituents, and remained silent when a former council member repeatedly did the same. He is untrustworthy.
The lack of leadership Mayor Nelson displays in how he is “managing” through this issue is alarming to me.
Petulance, blind-siding and innuendo are not what I consider to be effective leadership tools.
By pitting people against each other as opposed to playing a key role in building trust he has effectively created further division. That’s unfortunate.
Basic question: As a citizen why is it supposedly my duty and responsibility to be sure all our well paid, often union represented, and civil service protected employees are happy in their jobs at all times and have job satisfaction? All I want from them is parks clean, neat, and safe, speeders and crooks arrested when appropriate, water when I need it, sewage going where it needs to go, and a smiling city clerk when I pay way to much for a permit to rebuild my deck and inspections that are intrusive and pointless. That’s it for me; whether or not they “feel” bullied is irrelevant. They are lucky to have a damn good job as far as I’m concerned and they should appreciate it. Lot’s of people don’t.
One could argue the percieved problems are a result of poor leadership from the mayor. In my opinion the community has lost faith in his ability to lead us. In the words from motley crew. Mayor don’t go away mad, Mayor just go away.
So, the “administrative order”singles out Council member but says nothing about staff feeling uncomfortable with interactions from the Mayor or his office. Wonder what Scott James would have to say about that?
This is a nakedly weak, political ploy under which the Mayor admits that the interactions “ that these issues may NOT RISE to the level of official discrimination or job harassment”. Then what is the true issue? It is his job to manage the staff, and if something doesn’t rise to the discrimination or job harassment as defined in law then what on earth is doing imposing, or trying to, a higher standard for Council members ( but not the Mayor or his office, of course)..
Total political gibberish.
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Well Bob Throndsen thanks for trying! I expect that you would have more to write about and find more truth if you interviewed the staff of the city. My hunch is this move by the Mayor will backfire when the staff begin talking. So to the city staff… we want to hear from you. Please contact Bob so he can write a follow up article in regards to what is really going on.
If any Edmonds City Councilmember is engaging in bullying behavior, or otherwise being unprofessional, we citizens of Edmonds deserve to know about it; just who is doing this to hardworking staff? How else can we hold our elected officials accountable?
So far, all we have is innuendo. It’s time to name names. Who on City Council is doing this? What did they say and when did they say it? We don’t need to know the names of staff involved, only the Councilmember(s). Let’s see some evidence, so citizens can judge how serious an issue this is.
Here you go! https://www.heraldnet.com/news/edmonds-ex-staffers-say-council-bullying-pushed-them-out/
Two of the directors who complained happened eight and ten years ago. Talk about a far stretch. A flimsy article written by a third-rate paper. If they don’t like things they should go run for City Council.
The mayor could try leadership by example, not threats?
So from The Herald’s reporting, the lack of civility and bullying issues go back about 8 years. Special note that prior to Mayor Nelson being mayor, he was an Edmonds Council Member – since 2015 – (counting fingers) – about 8 years ago.
Looks like Mayor Mikee wants to leave his post on the next election cycle…
just sayin’ …
Council members have the job to obtain information to assist them in making informed decisions for the City. So the complaint is that Councilmember(s) ask staff to do their job and provide the information requested. And if the staff do not do that job, just saying it will be reported to their supervisor is considered “threatening” behavior. Really?
Council meeting are stressful for everyone. Being prepared, Council member or Staff, is crucial to successful outcome. So both need information and it is staff’s job to provide that in a timely manner. Most interchanges I’ve seen in Council meetings have been respectful, however lack of knowledge will create frustration.
Mayor Mike, be a Big Boy and talk to all the people involved to resolve the problem before taking this aggressive and divisive step. Yep, would say this is political!!
Thank you Helen, these thoughts are exactly correct about the oversight role Council must perform in order to do our job effectively and efficiently so as to look out for our city coffers and the citizens we represent. Yes, sometimes many of us over the years have asked probing questions in order to look for loopholes in policy or code, transparency in financial statements, amendments, reserves or audit findings, staffing, infrastructure and so on. For this reason the completeness and clarity of the agenda packets, memos and staff presentations or reports is paramount to allow Council and our citizens the necessary tools to also make informed decisions. Case in point – the new PROS plan update was sent back as entire sections relating to the environment, salmon recovery and our watersheds were left out (not surprising based on the limited questions in the survey on these topics) nor were any of the 2016 PROS action items addressed as this Plan was to be an update. Further, there were no action items or measures that Council can review to see if the Administration is following the plan; that vagueness caused tremendous divisiveness within the community. Because our Council configuration changed on 11/23/21 and then again the first of the year, there is less “group think” and maybe our Mayor and all his new staff members don’t understand our oversight roles as some of us do have city history and experience and try to think of the unintended consequences of some of these policy and code proposals. Bottom line, we must all work together as our citizens have been upset and angry for some time starting with the Police Chief debacle; and more recently the passing of the 2021 budget in a record timeframe (11/17/21) to allow the appointed CouncilMember (CM) to vote rather than the elected CM and excluded two veteran CMs who had the most amendments. Group think has never been a good way of leadership, especially with smart and engaged citizens like you. I believe we are all trying our best- some have different motives and that’s OK too!
Good grief. Just when I thought things couldn’t get any worse in our city’s administration and government. I wish even HALF the energy was spent on actually making this a safe and enjoyable place to live. Two women were robbed at gun point in broad daylight on the Interurban Trail yesterday. Shoplifting and open drug use is rampant at the Aurora Village shopping center. More and more businesses are closing down along HWY99 causing blight seen only seen in bigger cities. The park cleanup I did at my local park about a month ago yielded use hypodermic needles, weapons, and tons of garbage and trash. But yes – lets use our energy to make sure peoples feelings don’t get hurt. Wake up people – this is not the Edmonds you know and love anymore. It is something very different.
And yet this neglect you speak of (which is all across the country in towns of all sizes, unfortunately) is in and of itself a byproduct of the city government’s disfunction and inability to behave like adults. We’ve seen it for years. This is what happens when it runs unchecked. At the very least, these bullying claims should be a wakeup call for us to vote in people who do not lead with their tempers first. Cheers to the mayor for making the right move.
To be clear, the way this is being handled in the arena of public opinion instead of privately between the council and our administration – in my humble opinion – is completely unacceptable and an embarrassment for our city. I just wanted to clarify that.
Thanks for a reasonable response and one that attests to your civic responsible approach.
This entire situation is just embarrassing. Our city government are behaving like Middle School bullies and mean girls. It’s disgraceful.
The unnamed employee’s quote says there’s more to this than meets the eye: “…very grateful that I don’t have to interact with council and the mayor…”. Clearly the mayor, being identified, is inclusive of any staff concerns that are going on in city hall.
The truly shocking reveal in Bob Thronson’s article is that the Mayor actually sent an email to CM Olson. Is this a first? Nelson is notorious for not responding to citizens so, I figured no one showed him how to use email. But, seriously, once again, when given the opportunity to back up his allegations of bullying, he offers no facts or names. He claims it’s obvious from the way Council Members ask questions. Thank goodness they are willing to question staff. It is their job. Since there is now a new Council majority not of the Mayor’s liking, the Mayor thinks any criticism from the Council is bullying. He belongs on Snowflake lane in Bellevue, not in Edmonds.
After reading that story I can now say I have lost all faith in the leadership of Mike Nelson. Mikey lost all his favorite counsel members. So now he is trying to retaliate what a joke. Mikey need to be voted out .
So much hatred in these comments. I’m embarrassed to live among you. But it looks like the bullying City Council, which has been an embarrassment in and of itself, is representing its constituents well. No wonder so many people want to move here.
So far this mayor has given us a special task force and executive actions on solving racism, solving public servant bullying, saving big trees on private property, building dining rooms in the streets, possibly closing the downtown streets to make them into parks, stopping illegal fireworks, solving the housing crises and homelessness and finding and hiring the most perfect police chief ever, no matter how long it takes or how much it costs. As a concerned citizen, frankly, I’m feeling quite bullied by all his special task forces and executive actions.
None of this Mayors actions ever represent the City of Edmonds . This mayor is self serving and lacks any form of real leadership. As a long term resident of this City I look forward to the day that my current mayor is no longer in office and his toxic leadership skill set will no longer factor in the poor direction he has left our wonderful city . And I add a gigantic THANK YOU too all the City workers and there job well done !!
In regards to Janice Casper’s comments both with this article and previous articles (quoted below).
Trying to figure out how one person can say that the city council is an embarrassment and, also, say we need to defund the police department 100%? What is more appealing to a perspective resident… no police department or a city council that wants to be active in our city government (don’t forget Mike Nelson was part of the council that formal employees complained about)? I will leave it up to the readers. Is Janice being sarcastic or serious in her comments? I personally have no idea.
Mike Nelson is and was part of the problem. He gets no free pass in regards to this issue and article. Remember the connector was Mike Nelson’s brainchild and he used the cancellation of the connector to get himself elected. Mayor Mike, just like with the connector, is getting ahead of the newspaper article and pretending that he has nothing to do with it but he clearly was part of the council when some of these employees left so please My Edmonds News readers please don’t miss this rather huge point. Mayor Mike is as much to blame with this article as any other past or current council members are. He can not distance himself from an issue he more than likely caused and/or took part in. I have faith in the readers to see this and I have faith that Janice is just being sarcastic about defunding the police 100%.
Janice Caspers “So much hatred in these comments. I’m embarrassed to live among you. But it looks like the bullying City Council, which has been an embarrassment in and of itself, is representing its constituents well. No wonder so many people want to move here.”
“Janice Caspers
January 29, 2022 at 8:19 am
I agree, Ken. We need to defund the police department 100%. Too much bloat.”
In all this exchange, I fail to see any concrete documented examples of when, how and why a staff member was “bullied” or “harassed” by a Council Person. The mayor and his Democratic Party loyalists on the Council are screaming ‘harassment’ and ‘bullying” but so far can’t or won’t answer, “where’s the beef?” The fact that someone got their feelings hurt somewhere along the line and sought employment elsewhere is no proof that bullying or harassment has actually occurred. These political party hacks want us to believe that disagreeing with someone or asking pertinent questions is the same thing as attacking someone for who they are, what sex they are, a physical handicap of some kind, their religion, or their race. This is a bogus, politically motivated non issue from the start and no city employee is irreplaceable and/or guaranteed a job forever. To think otherwise is both naive and absurd. Mike, Susan and Laura, you would be well advised to quit treating your constituents like they are stupid. People have wised up, they are on to you, and the jig is up. Best you get over it sooner than later.
Amen Clinton! I couldn’t have said it better myself.